TaskPaper for iPhone: Not Exactly GTD

by Brandon Pittman

TaskPaper for iPhone: Not Exactly GTD

by Brandon Pittman on February 17, 2010

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[tweetmeme]I get obsessed with things. Whether it be women, games, tv shows or software, when I get an itch about something, I take it all the way. I fall for a chick and I start thinking about baby names. I like a game, I’ve gotta play every game in the series and all its weird off-shoots. When I got the idea to watch Star Trek, I watched every single episode ever made starting with the S01E00 Pilot. But for software, it’s different. I’m not gonna use old versions of software. When I got my first PC, I didn’t go installing old versions of Windows. When I switched to Mac in 2002, I didn’t start off with System 7. But I play with new software incessantly, even if I’m not really doing anything productive. It’s a bit of a conundrum, but even with GTD-styled task managers, I play. I create projects and tasks, tagging them and adding notes, completing and uncompleting them, until I’ve spent three times as much time creating tasks as it would’ve taken me to do the tasks that I actually didn’t even need to get done in the first place. And I do this all while watching episodes of Star Trek and flipping back and forth between Twitter and gaming feeds in Google Reader. (That’s right, I gave up on Fever.) I suck at GTD sometimes.

I bought into GTD. I believe in the system, and it’s worked quite well for me. I went with Omnifocus at first, because like a good little sheep, I was following Shepherd Mann like the rest of the Internet. But I could never get the hang of it. I think it was the start and end times on every task; seemed superfluous. Not to mention, I hated the color scheme. I was ready to give up on GTD. If I couldn’t do it electronically, I wasn’t going to do it at all. And then I found Things. I started using it while it was still in beta, and bought it the day 1.0 dropped. It was and still is my favorite task manager. It’s pretty simple as far as task managers go. And it’s had a great iPhone app since the early days too. And because I do the majority of my task management on the train, a great iPhone app ensures my loyalty. (It’s why I don’t use Fever anymore.) I’ve tried The Hit List, but it looks cartoony. You might as well have marker fonts to go along with it. And all the other to-do apps lacked projects, tags, or areas of focus. Things fit my style of GTD.

I know what makes a good app for GTD purposes. I’d go head-to-head against any Lifehacker or Merlin Mannite in a GTD debate. And I’m going to tell you right now that TaskPaper is not a good GTD app. In its attempt to strip away what its creator deems the unnecessary clutter of most task managers it creates more problems than it solves. What TaskPaper for iPhone does well are the same things that the desktop version does well. It gives you a blank slate on which you can create any kind of list you like. Because I believe TaskPaper is a list/outline creation tool, not a task manager as its name implies. But it’s a great list maker. It’s replaced my previous simple list maker, Quickie. TaskPaper adds a couple extra abilities; projects, notes, tags, and search. You can switch between project, task, or note by tapping return, and space and backspace control indentation. It’s a rigid structure, but since its meant to be a list maker, it suits its purpose. And it’s the structure that it provides that is TaskPaper’s selling point. Because in all reality, TaskPaper is a glorified text editor. It creates plain text files. If you create a list in TextEdit, but follow TaskPaper’s formatting for lists, TaskPaper will lay it out as if it were created in TaskPaper. I’d almost rather Hog Bay Software combined Writeroom and TaskPaper and just charge a little more. It feels unnecessary to have two separate apps that differ mostly in that one applies special formatting. As it stands, you can open files created in either app in the other one. I feel like I’m in murky waters here though, because even though this is supposed to be the positive comments section of my review, it’s coming across fairly negative. The thing is, I want to like TaskPaper more than I actually do. I like that it’s different; taking a chance on creating a different kind of to-do list. You do feel like you have much more control because you’re not jumping back and forth between different entry fields. You just tap on the page and start typing. That part is great. But it starts to fall apart when you try to use it like Things or Omnifocus.

That’s because TaskPaper doesn’t work well as a task database. It’s a list maker. You create individual text files. These text files can’t talk to each other. You can create multiple projects and even nested projects all in one text file, but you’re still not working in one cohesive environment. I feel very limited when I use TaskPaper in that I can keep track of everything because things start getting lost. You can’t put things in a Someday area. You could create a separate file labeled Someday, but then it would just get buried in the lists list. You can’t schedule things to pop up on a certain date. Tagging requires typing an @ symbol followed by text every time unless you have TextExpander installed and can create snippets. It’s far easier to pull up a list of tags in Things and quickly tap on a bunch of tags. And it’s way too cluttered when keeping a log of completed tasks. After completing a task, you can send it to an Archive project at the bottom of the text file. It’s functional, but feels messy. Nothing else you can do with completed tasks though since there’s no central log in the app. The simplistic nature of TaskPaper makes managing a lot of tasks and projects too difficult to be useful.

The menus in TaskPaper are a whole other problem too. Because you are editing the list directly, with no entry windows, it has pretty cool pop-up and drop-down menus. There’s a Play button (like a VCR) that will let you jump to a specific project and hide all others. That works fine. There’s an @ symbol that let’s you jump to a tag. That’s fine too. Next is a magnifying glass that jumps to search but isn’t needed since you could just use the OS’s built-in search at the top. The magnifying glass just jumps up there anyway. Again, adding unnecessary clutter to an app that’s supposed to be about simplicity. Lastly, there are three dots. These dots used to be a bullseye-looking icon in an earlier beta, and fit the look of the app and seemed more intuitive. This is your “everything else” menu. Hold this button, and you can select a bunch of items in the list without jumping to that batch edit view all other apps use. It’s really a good solution. A single tap on the dots will let you batch add tags, change item type between project, task, and note, and gives you cut, copy, and paste. You can also bring up cut, copy, and paste by swiping right to left over an item in the list. (Inversely, a left to right swipe completes an action.) But there’s no delete. Meaning, if you cut something, but wanted to delete another item before pasting, you’d have to backspace through a whole line of text unless you wanted to lose the text you just cut. It doesn’t come up often, but there’s a chance you’d forget and lose a string of text accidentally.

My last set of whines exist only because of other Hog Bay Software apps. By this I mean, there’s no sense of cohesion between the desktop TaskPaper and the iPhone one. On the TaskPaper site it says the iPhone app was “inspired” by the desktop app and I believe it because there’s no direct synchronization. Instead, you sync OTA with SimpleText.ws. While the transferring of files is fine, I’m also syncing text files that I’ve created in Writeroom, and task lists are mixed in with my regular writing. TaskPaper for iPhone attempts to fix this by letting you tag documents as a whole and filter them out in the file list. (Again, you have to type the tags in every time; you can’t select them from a list,) The problem is, TaskPaper for Mac doesn’t support tags for filtering documents the same way that the iPhone app does. If you create lists on your Mac, you can’t filter them on the phone without tagging them all individually on your iPhone. It’s a nuisance I could live without. And because the iPhone version of TaskPaper saves as .txt files by default, not as .taskpaper files like the desktop app, double-clicking a list created on the phone opens your Mac’s text editor. You could edit the extension on the phone, but changing the extension every time is infuriating.

So those are my thoughts on TaskPaper for iPhone. The task manager that I refuse to delete from iPhone even though I don’t really need it. For all its attempts at being simple, it makes my workflow harder. I could never recommend it as a replacement for Things or Omnifocus. If Quickie was more to your liking, TaskPaper is a more powerful alternative. But ultimately, even for the Quickie crowd, I don’t know if I could justify spending twice what Quickie costs for TaskPaper. It’s an interesting approach at lists, that if you are already happy with your GTD app of choice might be an additional list maker for those lists you don’t want polluting your more permanent projects and areas of responsibility. If you’re a productivity junkie, you’ll love playing with TaskPaper. But if you’re not the kind of person who makes hipster PDAs and reads about different kinds of stationary in your free time, $4.99 for a sometimes frustrating user experience would be a waste.

{ 16 comments… read them below or add one }

Micha

“TaskPaper for Mac doesn’t support tags”

Thats wrong! Taskpaper for Mac has the same @ tags. Maybe you should try the newest version and not an old one before you write about such things.

   

Brandon Pittman

the whole document tags support is in TaskPaper for Mac? I’m using the newest version and I’m not seeing it. I’m talking document filtering.

   

Micha

ah…ok got it.

   

Lubo

I don’t see how chicks play into this. Write a normal review next time and stop your friggin’ sexist remarks and your whining about everything in the world. Maybe you should join your friend in protesting against Apple India. Your energies are best used there, I’m sure.

   

Andrew

Maybe you should write comments on YouTube. Your energies are best used there, I’m sure. Here’s a sizzling video that’ll tickle your tastebuds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1Yt0xJKDY8

   

Brandon Pittman

I am sorry that one sentence about cherishing the holy union that is matrimony offended you so deeply that you felt it necessary to complain on a comments thread. Or it could possibly be that your own wife or girlfriend is unable to have children, making it unnecessary for you to think about baby names. Either way, if you’re reading this, it means you cared enough about seeing how hurt I was at your comment to have subscribed to this entry. You sure showed me.

   

Nite

Lubo..May be you should use a lube next time you write a comment! It’ll help lubricate your cranky, rusty brain ;) Just a thought :)

   

Terry Baker

Lubo. you suck. You suck so much!

   

Jesse Grosjean

Thanks for your review.

TaskPaper is built as an alternative to more standard solutions like OmniFocus and Things… it’s certainly the case that for some people those apps will work better. But I think that you are selling TaskPaper short as a GTD task manager.

“TaskPaper doesn’t work well as a task database. It’s a list maker. ”

I agree completely to “It’s a list maker”, but I think that’s where TaskPaper gets it’s greatest strength as a tool for GTD. If you read David Allens GTD book, his “the” GTD system is based on simple lists that you review and reprioritize frequently. This is exactly the use case that TaskPaper was designed for. So yes it is designed as a list maker, but for many people a list maker is the base of a good GTD system.

If you treat your tasks as items in a database I think the danger is that you never see everything at once, and so you always skip the esential GTD “review” step. Without frequent reviews in my experience you tasks list gets out of date loses it’s usefulness. In my mind TaskPaper’s approach more closely matches process that’s in the GTD book then existing tools.

Of course if you need due dates and repeats integrated into your GTD tool Things and OmniFocus do that great. But I think that TaskPaper’s approach for task managment is just as valid and for many people will lead to better results.

Jesse

   

Lubo

@Andrew,
Thanks for the insights into your musical tastes, but it has nothing to do with the point I was making. These reviews are trying to be comedies but instead are tragic comedies, in that they don’t offer the reader anything. Offer us some worthwhile reviews that are constructive and that don’t have anything to do with the reviewers personal obsessions. Offer us reviews that have us learn something too…that always works.

   

mdotbb

@Lubo I read Brandon’s reviews BECAUSE of his personality.

   

James Lee

Looking for instant desktop access to your lists? Ever want to display more than one list at once? Need to encrypt certain lists like passwords, software serial numbers, or other sensitive stuff? For a different approach to simple text lists, and other notes, all in one place, check out TopXNotes for Mac (www.topxnotes.com). Coming soon for iPhone, iPod touch and iPad.

   

S.V. Macías

Agreed and well said Jesse – Bonus for staying above the word/criticism/knife-fight fray. Your apps definitely fill a void for those avoiding bloatware.

   

piminnowcheez

I’m really surprised at how negative this review is. I, too, have tried pretty much all the various and sundry gtd apps and desktop/iphone app combos. I can see why Taskpaper wouldn’t be to everyone’s taste, but to declare summarily that it’s no good for gtd not only isn’t true, but it doesn’t take into account that gtd is a flexible system that takes lots of different forms depending on the user. I, for one, am much, much happier using the Taskpaper combo than I was using the Things apps. And it should be obvious that the whole reason Taskpaper and The Hit List both have fans is their text-based, listlike interface — a value on simplicity of both interface and system organization is a long-running current among gtd’ers. Things’ resistance to listmaking/outlining because of its focus on tagging may work for you, but it’s exactly why I was happy to delete it from my iPhone.

And a note about the magnifying glass on the toolbar: It’s not redundant. Yes, if you’re looking at an unfiltered list and hit it, it takes you to the search bar. But, if you’ve filtered using the tags or projects buttons at the bottom, and are working within your list, hitting the manifying glass releases you from your filter, leaving you wherever you are without ever having to scroll up to the top for the search bar. This has special usefulness because tasks are added to the bottom of a list by default.

I don’t think that the reviewer owes an app a positive review just because I happen to like it, but this review does a disservice to the app AND the readers: this tells us more about the reviewer’s workflow than about what the app does and doesn’t do, and who it might work well for.

   

alex k

have you tried rememberthemilk.com? it’s simple to use, and the pro service is affordable to me and gives an app that syncs data with the website so you dont have to bother with syncing your mac/iphone. worth a look at least.

   

gary

I couldn’t agree more with piminnowcheez and Jesse. GTD can be done with pencil and paper. You don’t need a complex system. Simplicity has its advantages. Your’e confusing your implementation of GTD with with the actual system.

And honestly, statements like this:
“You can’t schedule things to pop up on a certain date.”
makes me question your grasp of GTD.

I love Things, but Taskpaper is a fantastic application, and combined with a calendar, is perfect for GTD.

   

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