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		<title>By: Peter Norman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Norman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 23:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m using a late 2007 aluminum iMac 2.4GHz, Snow Leopard, Turbo.264HD, 4 GB Memory

When encoding ripped DVDs to AppleTV or iPhone format, the Turbo.264HD produces files that are easily three times as big as those produced by Handbrake.

Handbrake encodes a 1 hour film into AppleTV/iPhone in about 2 hours. Turbo.264HD encodes a 1 hour film into AppleTV format in about 1 hour.

I see no difference in video quality between Handbrake and Turbo.264HD. Is this the price we pay for the quicker encoding?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m using a late 2007 aluminum iMac 2.4GHz, Snow Leopard, Turbo.264HD, 4 GB Memory</p>
<p>When encoding ripped DVDs to AppleTV or iPhone format, the Turbo.264HD produces files that are easily three times as big as those produced by Handbrake.</p>
<p>Handbrake encodes a 1 hour film into AppleTV/iPhone in about 2 hours. Turbo.264HD encodes a 1 hour film into AppleTV format in about 1 hour.</p>
<p>I see no difference in video quality between Handbrake and Turbo.264HD. Is this the price we pay for the quicker encoding?</p>
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		<title>By: Osprey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Osprey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zathras is correct.  Elgato has serious audio out of sync problems with over 500 TS files I have converted todate.  100% failure rate.  This is not due to malformed vdieo files as some has suggested.  The same files can be converted with Handbrake without any sync problems &amp; Handbrake is freeware.  

Recently, through experimentation, I found that if  I convert my TS files  stored on a local harddisk instead of on my network&#039;s RAID drive with Elgato Turbo HD, there are less audio sync problems.  It appears that Elgator&#039;s sync problem cannot deal with files stored on networked RAID drives.  The same files stored on networked RAID drives can be converted with Handbrake without sync problems.

Elgato;s engineers do not take the sync problem seriously as they always assume that the problem is caused by mal formed video files.  That is why they have not solve the problem so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zathras is correct.  Elgato has serious audio out of sync problems with over 500 TS files I have converted todate.  100% failure rate.  This is not due to malformed vdieo files as some has suggested.  The same files can be converted with Handbrake without any sync problems &amp; Handbrake is freeware.  </p>
<p>Recently, through experimentation, I found that if  I convert my TS files  stored on a local harddisk instead of on my network&#8217;s RAID drive with Elgato Turbo HD, there are less audio sync problems.  It appears that Elgator&#8217;s sync problem cannot deal with files stored on networked RAID drives.  The same files stored on networked RAID drives can be converted with Handbrake without sync problems.</p>
<p>Elgato;s engineers do not take the sync problem seriously as they always assume that the problem is caused by mal formed video files.  That is why they have not solve the problem so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Sagit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sagit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hardware work well with Leopard, leaving free CPU ISe, but in Snow Leopard the 100% of CPU is used. :(

The soft that come woth Turbo HD is poor, yes, but Road Movie is competible with this Hadrware...

It was Better with Leopard, Elgato must review software and give more options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hardware work well with Leopard, leaving free CPU ISe, but in Snow Leopard the 100% of CPU is used. <img src='http://smokingapples.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The soft that come woth Turbo HD is poor, yes, but Road Movie is competible with this Hadrware&#8230;</p>
<p>It was Better with Leopard, Elgato must review software and give more options.</p>
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		<title>By: Zathras</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zathras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you really need to get inoculated against buzzwords and check your facts before you write nonsense like this:

Turbo does support AppleScript. The queue is locked during encodes, but I&#039;m not surprised, considering you can merge several files, they probably do some preparation work. And last I checked, Handbrake didn&#039;t let you enqueue anything while it&#039;s encoding either. There&#039;s probably a technical reason for that. I *can* edit it in real time though, why would I not be? I click add and it adds a file, that&#039;s as real-time as it gets.

And you&#039;re contradicting yourself: First you say it shouldn&#039;t use so much CPU, then you ask for it to use OpenCL (which balances out stuff on the CPU and GPU). OpenCL is used for decoding if the codecs support it (but none on the Mac do, it seems). Since encoding happens on the frigging encoder chip, it would be *nonsense* to try and drag that out into the GPU or CPU again.

And I haven&#039;t had sync issues. Maybe your files are damaged? VLC can play any garbage you give it, but most players don&#039;t. So I&#039;m not surprised if the Turbo has problems playing stuff you just grabbed from /dev/random.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you really need to get inoculated against buzzwords and check your facts before you write nonsense like this:</p>
<p>Turbo does support AppleScript. The queue is locked during encodes, but I&#8217;m not surprised, considering you can merge several files, they probably do some preparation work. And last I checked, Handbrake didn&#8217;t let you enqueue anything while it&#8217;s encoding either. There&#8217;s probably a technical reason for that. I *can* edit it in real time though, why would I not be? I click add and it adds a file, that&#8217;s as real-time as it gets.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re contradicting yourself: First you say it shouldn&#8217;t use so much CPU, then you ask for it to use OpenCL (which balances out stuff on the CPU and GPU). OpenCL is used for decoding if the codecs support it (but none on the Mac do, it seems). Since encoding happens on the frigging encoder chip, it would be *nonsense* to try and drag that out into the GPU or CPU again.</p>
<p>And I haven&#8217;t had sync issues. Maybe your files are damaged? VLC can play any garbage you give it, but most players don&#8217;t. So I&#8217;m not surprised if the Turbo has problems playing stuff you just grabbed from /dev/random.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Olin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Olin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Zahadum it&#039;s feature complete for the average user, which is what the Turbo Software is designed for. It&#039;s not really something a professional video editor would use, they&#039;d probably use the hardware with FCP.

1. Subtitles - don&#039;t use subtitles, so never tried to keep them with it.
2. I set my queue and double check it before I start encoding.
3. You can only run one copy of the software at a time, what makes you think you&#039;ll be able to run multiple to encode more items?
4. Snow Leopard has only been out for a few months. Not every developer has added features to their software that complement SL&#039;s features.
5. No, it doesn&#039;t have 2-pass encoding, but on my 720P HDTV, it looked just as good as a copy of the movie encoded by Handbrake with 2-pass encoding.
6. Audio has been in sync with all the items I&#039;ve encoded.
7. I didn&#039;t have any issues with it losing connectivity. All my encodes were at 70+FPS, usually over 120FPS.
8. I agree here, CPU usage was still epically high.
9. Audio encodes? I&#039;m sorry, I thought I was reviewing the Turbo.254 HD, for video, as a video encoder. I didn&#039;t know I was also supposed to attempt to re-encode my iTunes library to see if a VIDEO encoder could re-encode my music.
10. My sources already had the audio track that I wanted to keep with them, so I didn&#039;t attempt to try to select a different audio track

Bottom line: It handled everything I threw at it very well, other than the epic CPU usage. The movie files it output were good enough for me and my media center, which is what I&#039;d be looking for if I were to purchase one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Zahadum it&#8217;s feature complete for the average user, which is what the Turbo Software is designed for. It&#8217;s not really something a professional video editor would use, they&#8217;d probably use the hardware with FCP.</p>
<p>1. Subtitles - don&#8217;t use subtitles, so never tried to keep them with it.<br />
2. I set my queue and double check it before I start encoding.<br />
3. You can only run one copy of the software at a time, what makes you think you&#8217;ll be able to run multiple to encode more items?<br />
4. Snow Leopard has only been out for a few months. Not every developer has added features to their software that complement SL&#8217;s features.<br />
5. No, it doesn&#8217;t have 2-pass encoding, but on my 720P HDTV, it looked just as good as a copy of the movie encoded by Handbrake with 2-pass encoding.<br />
6. Audio has been in sync with all the items I&#8217;ve encoded.<br />
7. I didn&#8217;t have any issues with it losing connectivity. All my encodes were at 70+FPS, usually over 120FPS.<br />
8. I agree here, CPU usage was still epically high.<br />
9. Audio encodes? I&#8217;m sorry, I thought I was reviewing the Turbo.254 HD, for video, as a video encoder. I didn&#8217;t know I was also supposed to attempt to re-encode my iTunes library to see if a VIDEO encoder could re-encode my music.<br />
10. My sources already had the audio track that I wanted to keep with them, so I didn&#8217;t attempt to try to select a different audio track</p>
<p>Bottom line: It handled everything I threw at it very well, other than the epic CPU usage. The movie files it output were good enough for me and my media center, which is what I&#8217;d be looking for if I were to purchase one.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing I don&#039;t like about it is, chapter stops are rarely accurate.  Minor annoyance but enough.  Also, file size tends to be larger than what Handbrake produces.  However, it is blazingly fast and picture quality is very good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing I don&#8217;t like about it is, chapter stops are rarely accurate.  Minor annoyance but enough.  Also, file size tends to be larger than what Handbrake produces.  However, it is blazingly fast and picture quality is very good.</p>
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		<title>By: BUD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BUD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AND NO PONY!

I ASKED FOR A PONY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AND NO PONY!</p>
<p>I ASKED FOR A PONY!</p>
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		<title>By: Zahadum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zahadum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, forgot to mention other audio shortcomings:

- audio files can&#039;t be accepted an input source - which will be a disappointhent for people with a large iTunes library of mp3&#039;s that they want to transcode to AAC.

- no control which audio track will be selected/designated as the master input source (eg mix-down from dss or 5 1 etc), and ...

- no control over the output format for the mixdown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, forgot to mention other audio shortcomings:</p>
<p>- audio files can&#8217;t be accepted an input source - which will be a disappointhent for people with a large iTunes library of mp3&#8217;s that they want to transcode to AAC.</p>
<p>- no control which audio track will be selected/designated as the master input source (eg mix-down from dss or 5 1 etc), and &#8230;</p>
<p>- no control over the output format for the mixdown.</p>
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